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Permalink Reply by Jakov Jakisic on July 1, 2010 at 10:58

Comment by Arlene Teck 18 hours ago
Analysis: Doing nothing might have been best for oil spill
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65R5RC20100628?loomia_ow=t0:s...

Comment by Arlene Teck 1 day ago
http://www.ideaconnection.com/10-million-oil-spill-prize.html
--overview of other proposed solutions--ABS (already been suggested)
https://www.ideaconnection.com/search.html?keywords=oil+spill&t...
--overview of additional proposed solutions ABS (Already Been Suggested)
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Techcrunch/~3/VNogx68YSvI/?utm_sourc...
--many interesting ideas and threads to follow here, with videos, and a link to a venture capital supporter
http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/29/oil-spill-ideas/?utm_source=feedbu...
--more re X prize, only I believe they have misquoted the amount
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/28/x-prizes-multimillion-dollar-c...
--the TED organization has put on a special conference re seeking solutions for the oil spill, see agenda here
http://tedxoilspill.com/
TED X Oil Spill conference
http://www.casefoundation.org/blog/be-part-tedxoilspill
-- "BP is open to suggestions
http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/doc/2931/541843
--submit suggestions directly to BP on this form
http://www.horizonedocs.com/artform.php

Comment by Cal 1 day ago
google phrases 'oil spill solutions'
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&rlz=1R2ADFA_enCA371&q=oil+spill...
'oil spill solutions prizes'
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&rlz=1R2ADFA_enCA371&q=oil+spill...

Comment by Cal on June 28, 2010 at 12:36pm
Something about BP and public opinion, on Laura Ries' branding blog:
http://ries.typepad.com/ries_blog/2010/05/bp-has-a-brand-problem.html

Comment by Franis on June 28, 2010 at 10:57am
Here's more information about what engineers are up against on stopping the rupture on youtube:
http://is.gd/d7oBd
BP is getting innudated with "ideas" about how to get the oil out of sea water that have had quite a bit more experimentation, working models and even full-blown patents completed...as well as products in production done!
Check this newscast out: http://is.gd/d7nos
This is only the first of some interesting problems reported by Kindra Arnesen, a fisherman's wife moved to activism http://is.gd/d7r4f
Here's the last 4:44 of the same speech: http://is.gd/d7rbN
Also, there are many problems with worker protection that need major changes - that Kindra has articulated. http://is.gd/d7oHD
So - there are many additional facets of the problem begging for solutions.

Comment by Franis on June 25, 2010 at 2:57pm
The newest unpleasant surprise is that oil and the oil dispersal chemical suspended in rains are now affecting crops on land. This Rupture may have already become too serious to repair and could wreck more devastation for a long time to come in every ocean town - world-wide as it spreads.

Permalink Reply by Jakov Jakisic on July 1, 2010 at 11:17

Comment by Cal on June 23, 2010 at 1:26am
using mushrooms for the problem
http://fungi.com/mycotech/petroleum_problem.html

6 ways mushrooms can save the world:
http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_...

Permalink Reply by Jakov Jakisic on July 2, 2010 at 7:05

Comment by Jimm Meloy July 2
current hot trends in design is biomimicry - designs that mimic nature. Here's the lead organization - www.biomimicryguild.com

Permalink Reply by Jakov Jakisic on July 2, 2010 at 8:38

Oil Spill Response Models and Spill Tools
Model
URL for ModelFact Sheet (PDF)
Web Site Information
GNOME
(General NOAA Oil Modeling Environment), oil trajectory model.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/book_shelf/820_GNOME.pdf
(PDF, 1.1 M)
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/gnome
TAP
(Trajectory Analysis Planner), trajectory analysis software.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/book_shelf/894_tap.pdf
(PDF, 657.9K)
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/tap
ADIOS 2
(Automated Data Inquiry for Oil Spills), oil weathering model.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/book_shelf/538_adios.pdf
(PDF, 721.8K)
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/adios
Spill Tools, a set of three programs designed for oil spill planners and responders: the Mechanical Equipment Calculator, the In Situ Burn Calculator, and the Dispersant Mission Planner.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/book_shelf/1024_SpillTools.pdf
(PDF, 386.8K)
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/spilltools

Permalink Reply by Jakov Jakisic on July 2, 2010 at 8:39

Oil Spills in Coral Reefs: Planning & Response Considerations
A 2001 report summarizing relevant
research on coral reefs, written for anyone working in or planning for spill response in coral reef regions.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/erdpub/coral_oil (PDF, 10.4M)
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/coral
Toxicity of Oil to Reef-Building
Corals: a Spill Response Perspective
A report that explores spill case histories, field studies, and experimental studies to assess the acute and chronic impacts of oil on coral.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/erdpub/coral_tox (PDF, 336.8K)
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/coralreef
Oil and Sea Turtles: Biology, Planning, and Response
A basic overview of sea turtle biology: summarizes what is known about the effects of oil on sea turtles, reviews potential response actions in the event of a release, and presents case histories from previous spills.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/erdpub/turtle_oil (PDF, 2.7M)
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/seaturtles
Oil Spills in Mangroves: Planning & Response Considerations
A 2002 report summarizing current research on mangrove ecosystems for spill response decisionmakers.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/erdpub/mangrove_oil (PDF, 4.2M)
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/mangroves
Recovery of Mangrove Habitats at the Vesta Bella Spill Site
A 1994 report describing chemistry and mangrove observations one year after the 1991 cleanup of the Vesta Bella oil spill.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/erdpub/V_Bella
(PDF, 4.0M)
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/mangroves

Permalink Reply by Jakov Jakisic on July 17, 2010 at 21:49

FOCUS: How to keep the oil from the coase:

Floating Oil barriers that catch oil that has risen to the surface
huge wool pads that absorb the oil; drag them through the sea
Suck it up in a vacuum cleaner!
it appears that multiple ideas used to clean, contain and even recover the oil have been proposed, and some are being used. But most products that clean up the oil are being ignored.
there is the damage, chemicals do, when used for dissolving oil
oil usually dissolves after a certain period of time
water is moving a lot, there are tides
water maybe has different composition in different places?
Youtube is a great source for facts. People are making presentations there on their products that could be used for the oil spill that already are being manufactured

Permalink Reply by William Jack Jordan on July 18, 2010 at 9:19

I would like to know history of past oil spills and what methods were
(a) successful
(b) unsuccessful, perhaps could work with modification?

physics re oil, why does it spread etc.

Permalink Reply by Asa Jomard on July 22, 2010 at 21:42

I found a report on how oil spreads in Icy water.

http://www.crrc.unh.edu/research/yappa_oil_under_ice.pdf

Permalink Reply by Asa Jomard on July 22, 2010 at 23:15

And on how to mix oil and water.
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s1314925.htm

Permalink Reply by Jakov Jakisic on July 24, 2010 at 21:20

FOCUS: How to make containing the oil out at sea politically acceptable?
METHOD: CHALLENGE

WHAT IS OUT THERE
• there are reports uggesting that it is bad to let the oil reach the beach
• water is moving (see our "current" session)
• oil is lighter than water
• politicians are there to act
• the oil ruins the wldlife for years
• oil spill do almost all their damage in the first weeks –as fresh oil loaded with toxic substances hit wildlife and marsh grasses,
• oil barriers
• politicians, media, oil swimming on and below the sea, oil at beaches, etc.
• some of the worst damage to occur from spills in recent decades has come from people trying too hard to clean them up.

CURRENT THINKING: Dominating thoughts
• politicians change their views the whole time not based on facts
• people need politicians to have faith
• the effects of oil spill and consequently the faith in politicans are related to how close to the oil spill people are living
• some people are more depressed over the spill, other need a differnt support from politians - they can be reach by facts and information
• policians are bought by companies
• politicians lie

Permalink Reply by Asa Jomard on August 24, 2010 at 19:12

An article in "The Scientist" about microbes.

http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/57631/