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Comment by Zsolt Zsofka on February 24, 2012 at 23:10

What is the difference between a bungalow and a mansion built by the same set of tools? ;-)

Comment by Asa Jomard on February 24, 2012 at 22:12

What are the differences and similarities between FB and gossiping?

Comment by Zsolt Zsofka on February 24, 2012 at 21:35

Have you given the thought about time? How long does it take for people to adopt to things?
Not even a 100 years ago most people worked most of their awaken hours just to survive. The first book about personal development written to the public is not even a century old. Dr.de Bono wrote his work and other followed about modern day thinking methodologies only yesterday in the big skim of things.
Some of us are fast to adept but the majority are slower. FB is pushing it. They just mandated the timeline a few days ago and people resisting it. The very feature that sold me on FB finally, most people resist it. Compare this small change to something as fundamental as THINKING!!! If my sources are correct, 90+% that means closer to 99% of the average person thought process today is the same as it was yesterday…. If this is true then what is in it for them to THINK new thoughts? You and I and presumably other here are the exceptions. We love to think and get bored with same thoughts.
Have you given a thought to map out the evolution of THOUGHT itself?

Comment by Zsolt Zsofka on February 24, 2012 at 21:27

FYI: What is Luis doing right now? Here is my note I just posted for him:

" interesting... testing FB functions... I thought you care less...:-)"

Comment by Zsolt Zsofka on February 24, 2012 at 21:22

You keep on challenging my notion to do the FB Function Map. IMHO FB quest is peanuts compare to your notion to make better use of DBS. -No I have no idea what you would say next. BTW I made the first interview about FB with a low tech person. I may have a collage soon to point out the need for such map.
Getting people to THINK....let me know when you setup a forum on that. I'd surely participate.

Comment by Zsolt Zsofka on February 24, 2012 at 11:58

I find your notes both intriguing and time consuming to wrap my mind around but it is a learning process for me to apply the 6 Hats, so I play along…. Alas what am I getting into here….
Thanks for Luis to point out the RED hat dynamics, and the fact that I used to do similar things in my teen age years when I straight out challenged people, here in New England I grew to be a lot more mellow over the years.
OK. Let’s play:
1: FB FUNCTION (now appears to be defunct)
Try to setup new Friendship categories. I done it in the past, now this function is gone (temporarily hopefully or hidden in a very counter intuitive ways because I spent about 10 minutes looking for it instead of 10 seconds and found this option gone. All YouTube videos I reviewed on this topic are outdated.
Finding FB UI confusing…that is your words and perception of me coming across as such (?), whereas my problem with FB is 1:100 in favor of what I have realized about it.
I had the notion yesterday to ask people randomly to answer two questions for me front of the camera so I can share it with this group: 1: Do you use FB? 2: If the answer is yes, then WHAT do you like the most about FB? (This question is more about FUNCTION, what they use it for but that might intimidate some, so I use a more gentle version of the question. )
Point: IMHO FB is under-utilized both personal and business use. Simply because FB is evolving fast and people in general much slower to adapt to changes. (My focus is on the population 40 and above.)
This brings me to the justification of the project idea:
Mapping out FB functionality and update it, may serve some to get a bird eye view of the service offered, and while they are learning about it, they already know what is possible and what is not without reading through pages of linear presentation of the user manual-if they get that far to locate it or even think about reading one-
A more focused approach for those who are new to FB is a kind of Show & Tell. Let’s remember: General attention span, with US population in mind (for me) is all time low, the public is pretty much comatose in general. Free attention units are long gone, everybody is stressed out –we outwork even the Japanese- so unless the learning curve is simple like A-B-C & 1-2-3 people around here will not get far to realize FB potential.
So if you can, put yourself into the shoe of those (majority BTW) who do not use FB or way underutilizing it, and present them a nice, simple Mind Map, perhaps vlog going with it and their perspective may changes on FB.
This is not a hypothesis but a reality of mine since I service my community with computer repair and consultation work that goes with it, often on my dime, but it is my contribution to society. So I know that how little the people know about FB, much less making good use of it.
You and Luis and presumably others in this society are on the other end of the spectrum, and likely to know more about FB then I do, since I was not a fan and would not be if not for one (recent) crucial realization: I found FB to be the best digital canvas to record my life on, for the benefit of my family and grandchildren who may wish to know more about me 50-100 years from now. Luis made a statement that there are other methods to do this and sure, I have used and still making good use of my 4TB backup system that is maxed out and desperately need another 2 TB drive but will all my grandchildren and their children be power user of computers and will all those files remain compatible in the future….
A life worth living, is worth recording. FB for better or worse, brought the world into the largest global village. So if you want to use your brilliance to contribute to this quest on hand, it is not likely to further your own skills and further your insights about FB, but to make use of your mind to help others.
This is a labor of love not a commercial offering here and the result is to benefit the people in general, well beyond the 1700 members here.
To do any other mind sparring, please bring it on. That is why I joined this society anyways, but this little forum here about FB is really for one purpose: to map out FB functionality.
Since I am new here and not knowing anyone else, not very familiar with most pervious postings, I leave it to you guys to name the “time and place” and I do my best to show and carry on the debate about tools, PROCCESS and just about anything else. Frankly I was the one who approached Luis about mapping out Human Thought on the first place. So it is very unlikely that you find any limitations on my end, other than time and energy, but not about beliefs and consequent drive to push the limits about thinking.
Now, I would be mapping out this linear text based response and categorize them into 6 hats groupings. I would be setting up logical connections, apply multiple layer of data for faster and more in-depth representation of my thoughts, ready to adjust and branch them out as I learn from collaborating with others. I would even make a vlog either reading this verbatim or paraphrase it form notes, to be on the safe side and those who are in doubt about what I mean or where I come from, have the benefit to SEE and HEAR my words. None of these extra efforts however went well with you thus far so why bother going the extra mile? You have not convinced me that it would serve us well, so here it is in plain old fashion linear text to represent the long centuries of slow progress of the human mind. When you are ready to start applying what you know in a more evolved way that DOES promote concise writing, (when you make up 90% of missing words with other symbols), fluid thinking that demands FOCUS, then I am ready to engage you there. (Mind Mapping) Until then all I can do is present you with a 1200 words conversation style writing that maybe OK for someone with ESL challenges but frankly there are lot to be improved on which I prefer to do in visual thinking mode than the above mentioned old style communication.
Summary:
This FB Quest is to produce FB Function Map for those who need it. (You and Luis are not the one who need to learn about FB, but surely can help others to learn)
I am more than happy to discuss whatever topic anywhere, just set it up since this is your turf, I am the new guy here.

Comment by Zsolt Zsofka on February 23, 2012 at 23:41

Notes in shared OneNote are growing. Two members have engaged me thus far but nobody about in support of FB Function Mapping. I venture to say, there ARE something about FB that you are likely you to find new. So be a long time user of FB or new to it, at least find out about the new (or different) vantage point brought forth by me before you are making the mistake of dismissing this quest. As I find time, I make vlog to explain myself, apparently it is needed.

Comment by Zsolt Zsofka on February 23, 2012 at 23:35

Detailed response now in dropbox. The last sentence though have to be addressed publicly: :

We keep the creative thinking going in this thread.:

My question is:
About what? FB or the PROCESS?

Comment by Zsolt Zsofka on February 23, 2012 at 20:32

Your long post probably calls for a private reply. If however anyone every would be interested, the thread can be requested. This however I say for both you Luis and Kim: You can disagree with me about FB Function Mapping but this can mean one of two things: 1: You know everything there is to know about FB or at least as much as you care to know about it.
2: You simply do not care to know more about it regardless how much or little you know FB.
I do understand Luis who got into this dialog since he clearly stated it, I am at lost why Kim sent me that negative personal note.
I am going on with my little project about FB and if anyone wish to join, certainly are welcome but here on on this small corner of cyberspace, I just focus on the FB Topic.

Comment by Zsolt Zsofka on February 23, 2012 at 20:17

"WoW! I think you and I are a pair, Zsolt. Very Intense!

Well, about the posting of pictures of the nodes.
- Why do that? Just send me the mindmap, or alternatively, just answer in text. Much easier."
I think I did address this but it was very early morning so here it is again: Surely I could have done it privately and in text format but by bringing my answer to a public forum, others are invited to participate, after all we are communicate here in the spirit of building a focus group. Using mind manager, up front it was not much more investment in time and worth it as I get feedback how the 6 Hat colors were applied. So now I have the map and much easier to move the thoughts around. Thanks for the compliment to be like minded. As for "Intense" I take it also as a sort of compliment though I have limited use for this word in my active vocabulary. Now comes your long post...:-)

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